Does God Judge Nations?



My blog covers a wide range of topics, and today’s post is somewhat theological. I say somewhat, because there are practical real world connotations to today’s topic, not just religious theory. Today’s post is part personal, part theological, and part practical response. This post ended up much longer that I initially intended.

Does God judge nations? I will start this dissertation with the assumption that the triune God of the Bible is the one true God. We will consider his words and past actions to arrive at our conclusion.

Next, what is a nation? The Greek word ethnos is the root of the Bible word nations; it signifies a people group or tribe. Note that a country or kingdom is a political entity. Traditionally, and in a perfect world, countries are based around a people -an ethnos– though in modern degenerate times they often are not. Thus, God judges countries and nations/peoples. In Matthew 24:7 we see Jesus refers to conflict between both nations and kingdoms; that was not repetitive, for they are not interchangeable terms.

The churches that I have attended in the past generally held that God does indeed judge countries in the present day, though they are silent on the nations part (as they generally did no not distinguish between nations and countries). If God is recorded as having judged both individual people and nations in the Bible, why would he not continue to do so?

Sometimes though, evangelical preachers even deny that God still judges countries. I have a book entitled Sacred Betrayal by the late James R. Beller, a Baptist preacher who I met back in 2010, that openly denies that God still judges nations! In the 5th chapter of this book, published in 2005, Beller admits that God (in the OT) judged men both individually and as nations, and then proclaims that: “In the New Testament, God judges men as individuals, and only as individuals”. What? Where in the scriptures did Beller find that distinction, to which he gives not a single scriptural reference to back himself up? This statement is in his fanatically pro-Israel chapter, in which he opines that the George W. Bush administration had turned its back on Israel. Seriously. Somebody forgot to tell Netanyahu that ‘Muhrica no longer supported him…

Beller, who has major and recurring issues with Calvin, Reformed doctrine, the Puritans, and the Christian Reconstruction position, refers to the Reformed as “catholic Reformed” and “catholic Reformed Presbyterian”; but do not dare refer to Beller as an Arminian! Beller also attempts to tie Reconstructionism to the Neo-Nazi movement. I am not joking. In the 4th chapter, Beller states that: “I am not saying that Mr. Rushdoony was a Nazi sympathizer, but for whatever reason, some of his followers certainly are. You may want to your own research. Do an internet search on “Rushdoony” and “white supremacy”. Try googling “Rushdoony” and “neo confederate”, or “Rushdoony” and “nazi”, and you will get the picture”. Whatever one thinks of the Reconstruction position, it is ridiculous and deceitful to attempt to tie it to Nazism. Also, what is wrong with being a Neo-Confederate? Raise that Dixie flag! (While I am not a Reconstructionist, I do hold that all government law systems must be based on a moral code set by deity to be more than the whim of man. I-along with John Calvin and the Westminster and London Baptist confessions- hold that the exact statutes of the civil part of the Mosaic law need not be implemented in all societies in all time periods to have just law).

Now that my personal tirade is over, why do I hold that God still judges nations? First, he clearly did so with the food recorded in the 7th chapter of Genesis. Shortly after the flood, in Genesis 9, we see Noah place a curse on an entire emerging nation –the progeny of Ham. (No, I am not going there with this piece). The whole history of the nation of Israel was one of obedience and blessing, followed by disobedience and national judgement. This was specifically stated in the 28th chapter of Deuteronomy. Read Judges 2:13-19 for just one example of this playing out. They were sent into captivity in Babylon for their collective sins, as admitted by Daniel in Daniel 9:1-14.

Further, God judged nations other than Israel. Think of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19. Think of the plagues on Egypt in Exodus chapters 7-12. Think of the book of Jonah, and of Jonah being sent to Nineveh, which God saw fit to mercifully grant repentance and stay of sentence! These judgements, whether on the Hebrew tribes or on the other nations, were generally warfare, famine, and pestilence –not fire and brimstone.

Why would God suddenly change his method of operation? In Matthew 24 we see Jesus prophesying the destruction of the temple and national Israel by the Roman armies. Immediately before this prophetic discourse, in 23:30-38, he told why many of the events contained in chapter 24 were to occur. (Especially note the connection between 23:34 and 24:34 –something your pastor probably did not tell you). The fact that scripture cannon was closed by 100 A.D. is no reason to assume that the rise and fall of nations for the last nineteen centuries –and the destruction of evil ones- is not the hand of God working in judgment.

Now that I have covered the personal and some of the theological, let us move on to practical theological implications. What does this mean to us? Is the U.S.A. a morally upright country? Do we embrace true religion and morality? The obvious answer is a resounding no. People practice great violation of clear Biblical moral standards, and the pulpits of many churches condone this. “Thou shalt not” is pretty clear, regardless of ones’ other doctrines.

Lay aside rampant pornography, adultery, and sodomy for a moment. Also lay aside 40 million abortions, and unprovoked wars of foreign intervention that killed millions more. Momentarily lay aside (straight) men who had adopted effeminate dress and mannerisms, and (straight) women who dress likes whores or men. Momentarily lay aside inner city Negroes who live to thug and drug. Also lay aside open atheists and pagans, and even the antifa retards.

Think about professing Christians. Things that were unacceptable to unbelievers and nominal professor 75 years ago are now commonplace in churches. We now have, in addition to rampant covetousness and errors on soteriology and eschatology, female pastors and young women dressed worse than old west whores filling the pews of almost all denominations.

The U.S. has utterly departed from the religious heritage of the Western European who settled her from Jamestown to the War of Northern Aggression. Do you think Stonewall Jackson would walk into a present day P.C.A. church? Would George Washington or Patrick Henry walk into an Anglican church today? Do you think the Southern Baptists of 150 years ago would let Billy Graham lecture them on the rapture? And that does not even mention the vast majority of pulpits that embrace Neo-Babelism.

It seems clear to me that the United States of America has already sealed her fate. It is over, just a matter of time. I struggled with this for years. Acceptance brings peace, and opens the door to new possibilities.

But I have not taken it to the next dimension yet. Is judgement and sentence the same thing? Nope. Judgment is the judicial act where guilt is declared, the adjudication phase; the next phase of the process is the penalty phase, the carrying out of the punishment. (This was first pointed out to me in an excellent article on a Reformed Baptist type site; I would insert a link to it, but the site is no longer up). Almost 2,000 years ago, shortly before his crucifixion, Jesus proclaimed that Satan was judged (John 16:7-11); yet Revelation 20:10 records his final destruction at the end of the age.

America is already judged, but has not yet felt God’s wrath. How long we last remains to be seen. The type of judgment(s) that will fall on us is yet to be seen, though the extreme weather (tornadoes, floods, and wildfires) of the last six months could be a beginning –as could the increasingly violent antifas and the racial situation that is now simmering just below the boiling point. The penalty period could last months, or decades.

I am not going to speculate further as to what may happen and when. I will just assume that a period of economic collapse, racial strife, and tyranny are likely heading our way. I also believe that God will carry a remnant through to rebuild, as he almost always does. I pray that I will be a part of that remnant.

This is why I am developing a homestead. This is why I am staying fit. This is why I am blogging on ideology, not on an electoral solution to our problems. This is why I have occasionally posted on small arms, and will continue to do so. This is why I have several times mentioned Michael Bunker’s book Surviving Off Off-Grid. We need to be physically prepared, and thinking about core issues for after the collapse. Then, by God’s grace, we rebuild without all the errors of our present society.

Yes, God still judges kingdoms and ethnos. Are you ready?

© Copyright 2017 by Joseph Charles Putnam or Orange County, Indiana. All rights reserved.


Author: Joe Putnam

I am a Christian (Reformed/Sovereign Grace Baptist type), white American of Western European bloodline, advocate of an agrarian social order, Kinist, White Nationalist, admirer of America’s Founding Fathers and the Boys in Gray, homesteader, indie published author, and amateur historian. I have indie published several books, all of which are available from Amazon. I am a life long resident of rural Orange County, IN –in the part of the Upper South that many would term Greater Appalachia or the Dixie Frontier. In addition to my own blog "Putnam Liberty Notes", from May through July of 2017 I dual published many of my posts at the popular multi-author Alt-South blog Identity Dixie. In addition to my blog writings, I am currently gearing up for (at least) two more book projects –one theological and one historical. The theological one will cover the three interpretational views of Daniel’s 70th Week. I hope to have this book in print in late summer 2017. (Hint: I am, not a Dispensational Futurist). The historical book will be a biography of George Rogers Clark (1752-1818). Clark was a noted Virginia militia officer who’s campaigns, including his successful siege of Vincennes, basically took the Old Northwest from Britain during the American Revolution. Clark spent the rest of his life around the river that separates Clarksville, IN from Louisville, Kentucky. I hope to have my Clark bio in print in early 2018.

5 thoughts on “Does God Judge Nations?”

  1. Joe, I’m waiting for a full-tilt war against home schools.
    We (as is usually the case, the wife) homeschooled our 5
    and now they are homeschooling their children. Instead
    of ending the department of indoctrination, it looks like
    jarhead k – trump is going to ramp it up. To the destruction
    of what’s left of the goys. An example might be that any ‘school’
    can’t have a hate speech Bible present. Our homeschool, with
    everything up to an M2 and tripod downstairs, would never
    pass inspection…


    1. Hey Willy,
      I was homeschooled from grades 5 through 12; that saved me a bunch of indoctrination. Glad that you homeschooled your children also. No M2 w/tripod in my homeschool, but a 1911 was nearby…


  2. I was just checking this weeks stats this morning. My stats tell me number of unique views, page views, and the country of origin of views -broken down by day, week, and month. I was surprised to see that I had a new first on May 9 -a view from Israel! I have had views from many countries before, but never Israel. I have no idea which post of mine they viewed, but it was the day that I posted this essay -which depicted the Arch of Titus in Rome that was raised to commemorate the destruction of Jerusalem and the dissolution of national Israel in 70 A.D. Coincidence?


  3. Would it be OK if I cross-postted this article to I’ll be sure to give you complete credit as the author. There is no fee, I’m simply trying to add more content diversity for our community and I liked what you wrote. If “OK” please let me know via email.



    1. Hello Autumn,
      I would be fine with you re-posting this article at writerbeat. I just saw your comment this morning, and checked out your site. I do not know if you have been reading me for awhile, or just came across me. Some of my material is probably a bit to politically and culturally controversial for your site, but if you wish to re-post my “Does God Judge Nations”, please feel free to do so as long as it is posted in full and I am identified as the author.
      Thanks ,


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